HDMI to DVI

[tbarney]

My tv is a few years old so it only has component and DVI, no HDMI. From what I've found in the old posts it seems that getting video from an HDMI device into the DVI port should be as simple as getting a cable that is HDMI on one end and DVI on the other.  The posts here say that HDMI = DVI + Audio. Well, in my case it isn't that simple.

I have purchased two different HDMI to DVI cables and when I hook them up neither gives me a picture. I know that the DVI works because I can hookup a DVI device to it and I get picture.

Does anyone have confirmed experience with hooking an HDMI device to the DVI input on their TV? I'd hate to keep buying different cables since it seems I've already blown $30 two that don't work.

If it matters my tv is an Hitachi 57s500 which according to the manual has a DVI port "that contains the copy protection system HDCP".  I would assume that would be enough...

[Ralph Kramden]

You need to verify if the TV uses DVI-I or DVI-D. And that is the type of DVI/HDMI cable you need. Plus you still need to run audio cables.

[tbarney]

You need to verify if the TV uses DVI-I or DVI-D. And that is the type of DVI/HDMI cable you need. Plus you still need to run audio cables.

The owner's manual is no help. It tells me that the port is "DVI-HDTV". I can't find a reference to DVI-I or DVI-D anywhere in the book.

[AndrewP]

Most likely, that HDMI out from your Dish receiver is broken. Dish 622 had problems. I recommend you call Dish and ask for the replacement. Mine 622 worked for 3 months, then broked and was replaced by Dish free of charge.

[tbarney]

Most likely, that HDMI out from your Dish receiver is broken. Dish 622 had problems. I recommend you call Dish and ask for the replacement. Mine 622 worked for 3 months, then broke and was replaced by Dish free of charge.

Nice thought but I've tried HDMI from the Dish, RCA DVD Player, and a Toshiba DVD Player, all give me the same thing... no picture.

I did a bit more searching based on Ralph's comments and according to cnet my tv's dvi port is DVI-Digital.  I guess I'll be buying another cable...

[kevbeck122]

If the cable you have is DVI-I, it probably wouldn't fit in your TV's DVI port.  There are 4 extra pins on a DVI-I connection to allow analog video to pass through.  Here are all the differences:

[tbarney]

If the cable you have is DVI-I, it probably wouldn't fit in your TV's DVI port.  There are 4 extra pins on a DVI-I connection to allow analog video to pass through.  Here are all the differences:

The DVI port on the television matches the picture you posted of DVI-D Dual Link. The HDMI to DVI cables that I have tried both match that configuration exactly. Based on the port on the TV that seems to confirm that I have a DVI-D Dual Link capbable television.  However, the one DVI device that I have been able to get working is a native DVI output from an old Voom Receiver. The cable used in that case was DVI-D Single Link on both ends.

Does anyone feel strongly that if I get a HDMI to DVI-D Single link cable that it will work for me?  Should there really be any reason why the DVI-D single link would work when a DVI-D dual link does not?

[brewtownska]

Just a thought here, and keep in mind I don't use HDMI at all because my display does not have HDMI or DVI on it...so this is a long shot.  I remember reading on the AVS forums about Blu-ray and HD-DVD where people were having HDMI problems, and many times it was asked about what order people were turning on their components.  Something to do with the handshaking.  Is there any chance that everytime you've tried so far, your display has been on and THEN you turned on the HD box/dvd player/etc?  Is it worth trying to turn on the HD Box first, and then the display, just to see if the order makes a difference?

Mike

[tbarney]

... I remember reading on the AVS forums about Blu-ray and HD-DVD where people were having HDMI problems, and many times it was asked about what order people were turning on their components.  Something to do with the handshaking.
Mike

Another good thought but I've tried the devices being powered on in different orders. I've tried having one unplugged from power completely, one device then the other, no matter what I get no picture through the cable.

[flash]

Since your asking for opinions........ when you hook up your DVI-D  cable are you also hooking up your audio cables.
There are some devices that won't pass the signal unless they see audio AND video.
Once you have both sets of cables hooked up, then do the powering up handshaking thing.

[LoadStar]

Long shot... my Sharp has two different DVI modes. If you select just "DVI" it turns HDCP off and assumes you are using it with a PC. If you select the "DVI/HDMI" button, you first go to HDMI, then pressing it again goes to DVI with HDCP.

You could see if your TV set is similar... that might result in no video on the DVI port when using it with an HDMI device.

[HDefinicktion]

I dont have an answer, just an experience...similar issues but going from a Denon DVD player with DVI output, to a TV with HDMI...worked perfectly direct to the TV, but if I ran it through the receiver...DVI-HDMI cable to the receiver with HDMI cable to the TV....the DVD player would freeze on me.  I tried every trick that I thought there was, and figured that the DVD player had to go...seeing it was the cheapest to replace.  Not saying that it is an option, but the "DRM" type protection that is put on the consumers...namely those of us that are early adopters is tough....

[tbarney]

PROBLEM FIXED!!!!

I have finally figured out a solution to this problem. I had to post it here in hopes that others searching google for a solution would eventually stumple on this posting.

The solution is is to use a cable that is HDMI on one end and DVI-D Single Link on the other.  My TV has a DVI-D Dual Link connector, and that is the original cable that I tried, but thanks to kevbeck122 for pointing out the 5 different types of connectors. I knew I couldn't do DVI-I or DVI-A because my TV won't accept a cable with the additional pins above and below the "-" part of the connector.  The only thing left was a single link and that did the trick.

Now I can watch HD-DVD in 1080 instead of the 480 it shows through the component cables.