Wheel of Fortune

[John L]

Watching WOF tonight the show begins with "Available in HD" however WDJT-DT is not broadcasting it in HD.

Remember when it was on ch 4 up until last year.  I bet if it was still on WTMJ-DT to this day they would broadcast it in HD because they are a VHF network station as opposed to ch. 58 being a UHF network station which has NEVER worked in this market.  CBS should have stayed with WITI ch. 6.  Obviously WITI-TV is not making any money with Fox and made the mistake with networking with them.  They be better off with sticking with CBS.  Fox network is not a 50 year old network with lots of experience like ABC, CBS and NBC and they basically belong on the VHF band in this market.

How do I know WITI-DT isn't making any money? because it took them so long before everyone else to upgrade from a 100 mW transmitter to a high powered transmitter.   I mean years ago anyone who wanted to watch the packers in HD had to live at least a block or less from WITI-DT's transmitter.

-John L.
Muskego, WI.

[Gregg Lengling]

Watching WOF tonight the show begins with "Available in HD" however WDJT-DT is not broadcasting it in HD.

Remember when it was on ch 4 up until last year.  I bet if it was still on WTMJ-DT to this day they would broadcast it in HD because they are a VHF network station as opposed to ch. 58 being a UHF network station which has NEVER worked in this market.  CBS should have stayed with WITI ch. 6.  Obviously WITI-TV is not making any money with Fox and made the mistake with networking with them.  They be better off with sticking with CBS.  Fox network is not a 50 year old network with lots of experience like ABC, CBS and NBC and they basically belong on the VHF band in this market.

How do I know WITI-DT isn't making any money? because it took them so long before everyone else to upgrade from a 100 mW transmitter to a high powered transmitter.   I mean years ago anyone who wanted to watch the packers in HD had to live at least a block or less from WITI-DT's transmitter.

-John L.
Muskego, WI.

Both Jeopardy and Wheel are distributed in HD now....however very few stations are carrying it due to the distribution channels to get it in HD and the timing.  Few stations have the capability to save the feed and transmit it in their time slot versus when it comes down the satellite feed.

[tazman]

Few stations have the capability to save the feed and transmit it in their time slot versus when it comes down the satellite feed.

It's impressive as to what "us average consumers" can do with a $200 HD tuner capture card.  I can also capture satellite HD feed content to the hard drive and play it back with my Twinhan DVB card.    I would imagine what their doing is a bit more complicated... but then again why does it have to be?

[Gregg Lengling]

It's impressive as to what "us average consumers" can do with a $200 HD tuner capture card.  I can also capture satellite HD feed content to the hard drive and play it back with my Twinhan DVB card.    I would imagine what their doing is a bit more complicated... but then again why does it have to be?

Yes but we are playing with the ATSC stream at a  max around 19mbits, the feeds the stations get to send to their encoders is around 60mbits if I recall correctly...totally different animal.

[d_bohne]

It's impressive as to what "us average consumers" can do with a $200 HD tuner capture card.  I can also capture satellite HD feed content to the hard drive and play it back with my Twinhan DVB card.    I would imagine what their doing is a bit more complicated... but then again why does it have to be?

How do you capture satellite HD feed to your hard drive?

[tazman]

How do you capture satellite HD feed to your hard drive?

My Twinhan card is a FTA satellite tuner card, just as my Haupauge card is a OTA card.  The Twinhan card software has PVR and time shift capabilities.  There's not many HD FTA feeds, but I can record them to my hard drive.

[John L]

Yes but we are playing with the ATSC stream at a  max around 19mbits, the feeds the stations get to send to their encoders is around 60mbits if I recall correctly...totally different animal.

Stations use a more quality type of equipment made only for the TV broadcast industry not for consumer use, and mostly very expensive.  Surely such a person could own such broadcast quality encoders, providing he is a millionaire.

TV stations, especially big network affililiates avoid using cheap stuff.

-John L.

[tazman]

Yes but we are playing with the ATSC stream at a  max around 19mbits, the feeds the stations get to send to their encoders is around 60mbits if I recall correctly...totally different animal.

I should ask someone who has the TS Reader software, what the bit rate is for the PBS HD feed that comes down from AMC-3.  The ones I cannot receive right now and thats because I don't have the proper mpeg decoder software are the 4:2:2 signals.  I can only receive the 4:2:0 signals.  I can lock onto the 4:2:2 signals but can't display a picture.  I've been told that the Twinhan card that I have will receive the 4:2:2's with the proper mpeg decoder.  The computer I have that card in isn't fast enough any how.  There's not too much anyways in feeds and back hauls on the Ku-band that are in HD and also not 4:2:2.

[tazman]

Stations use a more quality type of equipment made only for the TV broadcast industry not for consumer use, and mostly very expensive.  Surely such a person could own such broadcast quality encoders, providing he is a millionaire.

TV stations, especially big network affililiates avoid using cheap stuff.

-John L.

But at the end of the day, what ever works gets the job done.  If they cannot afford what the rest of the big boys use then go with the cheap stuff for the short term.