WITI still with no OTA dTV...

[FreQi]

Well, season 3 of 24 is about to start and I'm still stuck without a widescreen feed of it.  I find it strange that the one real reason I bought my HiPix is still unavailable to me almost 2 years later.

It's good that I know people who do have a FOX station that's on top of things.

That is all.

[borghe]

Well, I got to see it but I honestly envy all of those TWC subscribers right now (hey, it had to happen sooner ot later :p )

I had to severely mess with my indoor antenna to finally grab a 44-51 signal on Fox6, but it stayed constant all the way through.

Overall good episode. Kind of funny was I don't watch WITI-DT too often, so when I saw the Ford commercial at the beginning I thought it was the show and thought "Man, this looks really bad." But when 24 actually started I was then very impressed.. Not as good as HD by a little, but man that still looks really nice. If Fox would ever throw 5.1 on there that would be some sweet icing.

[Dan the Man]

Borghe,

Are you saying that you live in Wauwatosa and are picking up Fox 6's digital signal OTA???

[borghe]

short answer, yes.

long answer.. well... I have an RS DBT. I have a 50'+ of coax cable attached to it. I have the cable run hidden in the living room and the antenna either in the front hall or outside on the porch depending on conditions... getting a 90-100 on any station in the front hall is a snap.. literally 5 seconds worth of work. Getting a 40 on Fox 6 is relatively easy (maybe a minutes worth of work), unfortunately when it drops into the thrities on a 40 high (very often) it makes watching pretty much impossible with breakups.. However, inside I can REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY work at it and usually get a solid 44-51 and sometimes even 51-58.. taking it outside on the porch I can with a little work usually get a 51-58 pretty well... for reference if you can keep Fox's signal in the mid 40's it is perfect.. it isn't like an HD station where you need to keep it in the high-60's to low-70's minimum.. Obviously that will change when they go to HD, but by then maybe WITI will have their tower up and running..

[G-Man]

I have the samsung sirt151 and I receive all the locals except for fox. my receiver is set to recieve 1080i should I change that to recieve fox's digital feed. I live right in the city of milwaukee using a radioshack double bow tie.
thanks

[Tom Snyder]

Eric:

You realize that your long answer confirms what most normal people believe about us... we're all just nuts! :rolleyes:

[StarvingForHDTV]

Originally posted by G-Man
I have the samsung sirt151 and I receive all the locals except for fox. my receiver is set to recieve 1080i should I change that to recieve fox's digital feed. I live right in the city of milwaukee using a radioshack double bow tie.
thanks

No, you shouldn't have to change the Samsung.  It's probably set to Output at 1080i I would imagine.  If you picked up 6-1 it would convert the 480p to 1080i.  Although, if you do end up pulling it in somehow, it would probably be best to watch it in native 480p.  Not much better, but perhaps a little better.

Most likely you will have to adjust your antenna to try to get their signal.  That, or move closer to their station....

Good luck,

Starving

[Kevin Arnold]

This is true irony. All these major local and not so local corporations who are in the communications business find it impossible to communicate with anyone regarding when they expect to have their antenna work done.  One simple email from Fox 6 to this group, to Tim Cuprisin, or even to Contact 6 giving their best guesstimate as to completion  would stop a lot of complaining and bad mouthing that is inevitable when they leave a void.....   Of any corporate entity, they should know how this works.:bang:

[borghe]

yes, we are nuts, and companies like Fox, Sinclair, et al are what is preventing HDTV to go to the mainstream...

but in the meantime, 24 looked damn fine.

[Matt Heebner]

I too live in 'Tosa, and the only time I could get higher than a 22 on FAUX's digital station was when I was up in my attic holding my RS DBT antenna. The signal jumped to about the 40's where it was watchable according to my wife in the living room. (We were communicating via walkie-talkies.) The second I set it down....BOOM lost the signal. Picked it up...fine again. I figured that it just wasn't worth standing in my attic so my wife could watch the 480p widescreen football games that she doesn't even care about in the first place. :rolleyes:

Hell, I even rigged my DBT to a big pole outside my second floor porch all in efforts to receive enhanced football last season. After much frustration and no signal, I kinda stopped caring about FAUX's lame-assed attempts to get me their weak, crappo digital signal.

:guns: FAUX

Matt

[Tom Snyder]

I figured that it just wasn't worth standing in my attic so my wife could watch the 480p widescreen football games that she doesn't even care about in the first place.  

Whoa, dude! The problem here is obvious...  you just have the wrong person in the attic holding the antenna!

[Matt Heebner]

Yea, just try and tell her that though.....I probably would've found out that I won't get any digital stations where she would have stuck that double bow-tie....


Matt

[mhz40]

Originally posted by borghe
short answer, yes.

long answer.. well... I have an RS DBT. I have a 50'+ of coax cable attached to it. I have the cable run hidden in the living room and the antenna either in the front hall or outside on the porch depending on conditions... getting a 90-100 on any station in the front hall is a snap.. literally 5 seconds worth of work. Getting a 40 on Fox 6 is relatively easy (maybe a minutes worth of work), unfortunately when it drops into the thrities on a 40 high (very often) it makes watching pretty much impossible with breakups.. However, inside I can REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY work at it and usually get a solid 44-51 and sometimes even 51-58.. taking it outside on the porch I can with a little work usually get a 51-58 pretty well... for reference if you can keep Fox's signal in the mid 40's it is perfect.. it isn't like an HD station where you need to keep it in the high-60's to low-70's minimum.. Obviously that will change when they go to HD, but by then maybe WITI will have their tower up and running..

I'm confused... is this the weekend weather forecast?

[foxeng]

Well, let me muck things up a little for you.

The FCC contour charts do not gurantee reception on rabbit ears or indoor antennas, analog or digital. Never has, EVER. (FM neither) All coverage estimates are based on signal strength at 30 feet with a 0 gain dipole. If you do not have an outside antenna that is at least at roof level, the FCC says you do not have coverage and stations are not required to provide a signal to those receivers.

When it comes to 8VSB, the FCC is on record stating they never did expect rabbit eyes to work with DTV.

Sorry. That is the rules.

[borghe]

yes foxeng, I actually was aware of that (per my conversation with a Fox6 engineer, was it you?) that being said, I can only assume it is Fox's intention to "allow" for reception over indoor rabbit ears being that most non-cable owning folks don't have roof mounted antennas, especially given the proliferation of OTA viewers now that satellite systems seem to be perpetuating that as the preferred way to pick up local stations.