Update: Last month up in the attic , I installed an 8 bay antenna on a rotor which is nice to be able to point it in any direction from my easy chair.(saved hundreds of dollars by doing it myself) I am now able to get channels 3,27 and 47 from Madison,like Chicago, also about 75 miles from us. I can also sometime pull in stations from Michigan and Rockford , Ill. Not bad , eh? {cheers}