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Need help getting VCR to work w/ TV & Sat

Started by codefree, Tuesday Oct 29, 2002, 06:50:00 PM

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codefree

I own the Samsung HCL473W 16:9 TV, a Hughes 86 STB w/DirecTV, and an older Panasonic VCR.  Problem is, while I can watch a videotape I cannot record onto one.  I can't get the VCR's on screen display to show up at the same time as the DirecTV broadcast.  I must have missed something important but for the life of me I can't figure this one out.  Any suggestions as to what may be wrong?  Do I need a D-VHS player to record now?  

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codefree

Gregg Lengling

So are you feeding the VCR with the SVHS or composite video input from the Sat Box?  And if so are you actually viewing the program through the VCR or are you viewing through the HiDef input to the set.  I may be mistaken but it may be possible that the box will only output one type at a time and you may have to select the SVHS or composite and view it through the VCR to actually record.

I may be wrong, but............




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Gregg R. Lengling
RCA P61310 61" 16x9
HiDTV Pro 2 computer reciever card
glengling@ameritech.net
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Living the life with a 65" Aquos
glengling at milwaukeehdtv dot org  {fart}

codefree

My VCR isn't SVHS.  I have composites going from the Sat Box to the VCR and from the Sat Box to the TV.  I can't see the programs I want to record which is what's telling me it's hooked up wrong.

Gregg Lengling

I think you have to turn off the component output from your STB to turn on the composite feed to the VCR.  The VCR then feeds the composite input of your display and you should be able to see it and record it.
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Living the life with a 65" Aquos
glengling at milwaukeehdtv dot org  {fart}

codefree

I don't see a way to turn off the component output from the STB.

codefree

If I get a SVHS player will everything work as it should to record TV shows thru the Sat Box?

Gregg Lengling

I wouldn't count on it...if you cant' get the composite video output to work how do you think you'll get the SVHS output to work.  And S/VHS machines are getting hard to find......tape is dying.
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Living the life with a 65" Aquos
glengling at milwaukeehdtv dot org  {fart}

Tom Snyder

codefree....

Are you and I the last two people on the planet without Tivo or Replay?  

I ended up hooking my VCR for recording to my second Satellite receiver in the bedroom.
Tom Snyder
Administrator and Webmaster for milwaukeehdtv.org
tsnyder@milwaukeehdtv.org

veyj

Tom and Codefree, you're not alone.  No Tivo or Ultimate here.  Waiting to see the next generation (What's the lastest borghe) and debating if I should "experiment" with HTPC like Gregg and others.

Codefree, Gregg was right.  You need to toggle to SD from the remote (ACTION +  HD/SD).  You should also use this setting for almost all DirecTV viewing that's not HD.  The picture will look better and you'll have more control with your TV's zoom settings.

John

Matt Heebner

I dont have any type of PVR either...yet. I too am also waiting on some sort of HD PVR. I considered going the Hi-Pix and HTPC route, but I think I will wait.

Matt

Pat

I think you'll just have to read the manuals (usually between the lines!) to figure out what each input and each output of the different components does.  In particular, if you have a new-ish audio receiver, you may have a "monitor" connector on your receiver that needs to be used for getting it set up right.  You end up with everything hooked up to the receiver and only the receiver hooked up to the TV.  The receiver switches everything around for you.

If you don't have a new-ish receiver, get one!

One mistake some people make (I did) is to wire a DVD player through the VCR.  The DVD's copy protection scheme will distort the DVD's output so you can't watch it (or record it!).

I doubt that what Mr. Free is seeing, but I thought I'd mention it.

codefree

I'm going to play around with the connections again this evening and see what I can do based on the replies here.  I think Pat may have hit the nail on the head though, I do have a newer receiver and it does have a billion inputs and outputs.  I had the Sat box audio connected thru it already but not the video.  Thanks for the tips everyone.  

codefree

 
QuoteYou need to toggle to SD from the remote (ACTION + HD/SD). You should also use this setting for almost all DirecTV viewing that's not HD. The picture will look better and you'll have more control with your TV's zoom settings.

When I hit "ACTION" on the Sat remote and then HD+SD the video doesn't change.  Well I can't see the VCR's on screen display anyway.  

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Gregg Lengling

I think you have to tell us how you have everything hooked up....it sounds like you don't have the VCR feed the Display properly or you haven't switched to the input on the Display that you feed the VCR with.....give us the low down of the setup.


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Gregg R. Lengling
RCA P61310 61" 16x9
HiDTV Pro 2 computer reciever card
glengling@ameritech.net
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Living the life with a 65" Aquos
glengling at milwaukeehdtv dot org  {fart}

codefree

Here's how the VCR is currently connected:

VCR in = Satellite out
VCR out =
VCR in from antenna = Satellite out to TV
VCR out to TV = Receiver in from TV/Satellite

I've had the "VCR out to TV" connected to the TV but haven't gotten any results.