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Started by Jimboy, Wednesday May 31, 2006, 11:48:31 AM

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Jimboy

Quote from: Joseph SI saw drastic swings during the day including an outage. I can monitor the strength in a background window without viewing the stream.

At the end, UPN is back where it was yesterday. WB is consistently 8-10% lower than it was yesterday night without moving the antenna. WB is in the "I don't trust the recording" range for me right now. Not sure what has changed, but the end result is WB's signal was better before it was shut down. There have been no changes with reception of other stations' signal.

It was still being worked on today which would be the cause of the swings and outages earlier. If you are still having issues multipath could still be the problem.

Gregg Lengling

I've always had good signals up here in Cedaburg, but now everything is all in real high signal levels.  Here's a current report:

ch/dig                signal
04/28                 91
06/33                 89
10/08                 89
12/34                 94
18/61                 93
24/25                 91
30/22                 78
36/35                 93
55/40                 84
58/46                 91

Didn't bother looking at any out of market stations as those are continously variable with weather conditions.
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Living the life with a 65" Aquos
glengling at milwaukeehdtv dot org  {fart}

waterhead

What do you guys use to measure the signal level? My equipment just has the crappy bars showing signal strength. Is there an application that I can run on a Windows computer.

I think Linux has one, but everything in Linux is so labor intensive (no GUI).

Joseph S

#18
QuoteIt was still being worked on today which would be the cause of the swings and outages earlier.
That was my assumption and was why I kept updating when I could.

QuoteIf you are still having issues multipath could still be the problem.
Where are your towers and where in relation to the others? I'm having to point North toward Capitol rd and East toward Milwaukee, more East than North. I know multipath is why I can't get WISN and NBC/CBS at their higher levels. Have to aim almost away from the towers to get them at top values. Same story with WB/UPN. I could either get one or the other before, not both. So overall, it's a great improvement. Just seems odd that I'm seeing lower numbers on WB without moving the antenna, one day later. Another trick I've tried in the past is aiming straight toward the sky. Worked well for almost everything, but not WISN/WB/UPN. Might fool around a little with the antenna this weekend.

QuoteWhat do you guys use to measure the signal level? My equipment just has the crappy bars showing signal strength. Is there an application that I can run on a Windows computer.
Either EyeTV or MyHD(lower vals). Someone here was using a fancy or not so fancy gizmo to test signals back when Fox was running on the 9volt to see if they actually had a signal when there wasn't even a broadcast. Don't remember what it was or who did it.  If I had to bet it was Gregg. ;)

LoadStar

Nice. I was beginning to think that HDTV OTA was a lost cause. Using the crap-tastic antenna I picked up at Radio Shack, I'm getting full signal on 24.1, and virtually full signal on 18.1.

I like. :)

Jimboy

Quote from: Joseph SWhere are your towers and where in relation to the others? I'm having to point North toward Capitol rd and East toward Milwaukee, more East than North. I know multipath is why I can't get WISN and NBC/CBS at their higher levels. Have to aim almost away from the towers to get them at top values. Same story with WB/UPN. I could either get one or the other before, not both. So overall, it's a great improvement. Just seems odd that I'm seeing lower numbers on WB without moving the antenna, one day later. Another trick I've tried in the past is aiming straight toward the sky. Worked well for almost everything, but not WISN/WB/UPN. Might fool around a little with the antenna this weekend.



We transmit from the American Tower Complex. Channel 10-1, 36-1, 55-1, 30-1, and analog 10 & 36 also transmit from this location.

Joseph S

Ok, then here's what I'm getting from that Tower.
36=24 in reception - High 80's/Low 90s
55 approx = 10 in reception - Mid 80s with 10 drifting a little lower on avg (10's VHF and I'm using a UHF antenna)
18 lowest at low 70s.

Is there anything in placement, height, or direction of the signals on the tower that would explain the above. I know moving the antenna will change things, but if I do I'll lose CBS or ABC out of completely reliable range. Just curious.

Other Towers same antenna position - NBC/CBS/FOX low 90s, ABC mid 80s. I can pretty much get everything in mid 90s now, but not at the same time. Before yesterday, UPN and WB were a pain to get and mutually exclusive in terms of reception.

Mark Strube

Well it's a different situation for me Joseph... 18-1 was in the mid-high 80's, now it's in the mid-high 90's... 24-1 I couldn't receive at all, and now its signal is in mid-high 80's with no problems.

Gregg Lengling

Quote from: waterheadWhat do you guys use to measure the signal level? My equipment just has the crappy bars showing signal strength. Is there an application that I can run on a Windows computer.

I think Linux has one, but everything in Linux is so labor intensive (no GUI).


I get my levels from my PC card receiver that I use for recording, my STB's also provide a level but they are almost identical to the PC so the PC is easier to look at.
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
Living the life with a 65" Aquos
glengling at milwaukeehdtv dot org  {fart}

waterhead

Quote from: Gregg LenglingI get my levels from my PC card receiver that I use for recording, my STB's also provide a level but they are almost identical to the PC so the PC is easier to look at.

Thanks guys. Joseph, I can't use your methods because I don't have a Mac or a MyHD card, but thanks anyway.

I think I'll have to check my card/software setup programs again. That's where it originally scanned for the channels.

Paul

Joseph S

Looks like 18-1 croaked Sunday night, doesn't seem back up here.

Jimboy

Quote from: Joseph SLooks like 18-1 croaked Sunday night, doesn't seem back up here.

Its been on all weekend...still is.
What are you using for an antenna? We're talking Wauwatosa right?

Joseph S

#27
QuoteIts been on all weekend...still is.
What are you using for an antenna? We're talking Wauwatosa right?

Yeah. Wind? Saturday it recorded a show just fine. Noticed it was gone Sunday, and it's bouncing around near 50%. Silver Sensor antenna. Nothing else has changed at all, including 24.

Update: It's there if I move antenna to the expense of ABC or CBS. Weird that the signal has gone from 80s to 40s-50s without moving the antenna once.

Jimboy

Quote from: Joseph SYeah. Wind? Saturday it recorded a show just fine. Noticed it was gone Sunday, and it's bouncing around near 50%. Silver Sensor antenna. Nothing else has changed at all, including 24.

Update: It's there if I move antenna to the expense of ABC or CBS. Weird that the signal has gone from 80s to 40s-50s without moving the antenna once.

Does your antenna have the amplifier on it?

Joseph S