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Time Warner Advances Simulcasting

Started by gb4fan92, Saturday Jul 09, 2005, 07:48:34 AM

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foxeng

Quote from: Mark StrubeDigital analogs? You mean channels 1-99 that used to be analog, right? Well, if channels 4-6 are any indication (the only local digital simulcast channels so far) these channels will look great.

In Raleigh they have taken the local analog channels (2-13) and put up a second, version where they take the analog and convert it to digital and then compress the digital signal. If you have a digital cable box, you get the digital versions of 2-13. If you do not have a digital box, you get the analog version of 2-13. My friend tells me that the digital versions of 2-13 are very compressed and if he has to watch something on 2-13, he uses the analog input to his TV and not the digital cable box because of the compress TWC Raleigh is using on the digital 2-13. I haven't seen it so I am relying on my friends say.

Mark Strube

The reason 4-6 are the only digital simulcast channels so far is because those were the only locals they've been able to get the digital feed from so far. (Or something of that sort... it was mentioned in this forum awhile back.) Going by that, I don't think they'll be converting analog to digital in the first place. That sounds pointless, actually... lower quality and they're still not freeing up the analog bandwidth.

Joseph S

See that's what Comcast did in some regions. They pulled analog and made special deals for the folks grandfathered in to the ancient plans.

RLJSlick

Thats too funny!  Daria show rules!

Quote from: Mark StrubeI think it really depends on the station you're watching. I know here on TWC Noggin looks like crap, huge amount of compression... but on my friend's DirecTV it looks great. (Yeah yeah, I got addicted to Degrassi... so sue me. Daria is my official reason for watching the station. ;) )
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GBK

Personal Opinion - TWC sucks and blows at the same time. :D

Mark Strube

Thanks for that intelligent, thoughtful post!! :bang:

GBK

Quote from: Mark StrubeThanks for that intelligent, thoughtful post!! :bang:

anytime.   :wave:

If you had the experience with those idiots as I did you'd feel the same way.

gb4fan92

Quote from: Mark StrubeThanks for that intelligent, thoughtful post!! :bang:

I couldn't agree more.

RLJSlick

No Problem!  :bang:

Quote from: Mark StrubeThanks for that intelligent, thoughtful post!! :bang:
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Polk RM6700/PSW303 Sound System

Mark Strube

#24
Quote from: RLJSlickNo Problem!  :bang:

No no... I was replying to GBK... I guess he was so embarrassed by his pointless post he erased it.

GBK

this forum is really for some positive feedback I felt that it was needlessly causing a pointless agrument I wasn't interested in pursuing.  I still don't like TW.  I think this simulcasting of digital anolog is absolutely pointless.  digitizing crapy analog signal doensn't make it better.  But I don't expect anything usefull out of that company.

gparris

Quote from: GBKthis forum is really for some positive feedback I felt that it was needlessly causing a pointless agrument I wasn't interested in pursuing.  I still don't like TW.  I think this simulcasting of digital anolog is absolutely pointless.  digitizing crapy analog signal doensn't make it better.  But I don't expect anything usefull out of that company.

I was at a friends house in last night, got what I thought was a decent signal on their Directv box for their 65" Mits, adjusted for convergence, did a setup with the AVIA disc, etc. and still wonder why folks with satellite think the digitally compressed Directv signals are any better than the the analogue TWC.

 If this is Directv "digital", it looks worse than I remember it from 2003 when I moved to apartment and went to cable with the same 65" Mits I had then.
Then during the storm, we had breakup, signal fade, pixelation and so on for about a hour-never experienced that with TWC.  

So I am very glad cable is expanding its digital delivery to quiet the comments from satellite, but unlike others in the forum, I also want it to remain competitive and if this helps raise the bar for both types of HDTV/digital delivery, so be it. ;)

Mark Strube

GBK - the idea isn't to digitize analog. It's to keep everything digital, all the way thru, like most of the existing digital channels. When they first make the switch some of them may be digitized analog if they're unable to get a digital feed from a given channel, but the eventual goal is that everything is digital. mhz40 might be able to comment on the digital feed situation?

GBK

#28
I based my analog converted to digtal based on the below post...

Quote from: foxengIn Raleigh they have taken the local analog channels (2-13) and put up a second, version where they take the analog and convert it to digital and then compress the digital signal. If you have a digital cable box, you get the digital versions of 2-13. If you do not have a digital box, you get the analog version of 2-13. My friend tells me that the digital versions of 2-13 are very compressed and if he has to watch something on 2-13, he uses the analog input to his TV and not the digital cable box because of the compress TWC Raleigh is using on the digital 2-13. I haven't seen it so I am relying on my friends say.


The way I understood it is that the analog channels are converted to digital and simulcast.. If that is the case it is an absolute waste of bandwidth and proves to me it's a mere marketing ploy against the Satelite services for the 100% digital channels.. I don't use either so I can't speak of the current quality of channels I have however used TWC in the past and it was a huge mistake to do so.  Analog quality of channels were almost as bad as watching it over the air with an indoor rabbit ears antenna.  There was nothing but problems with their "digital" box locking up etc.  I hope for the sake of their customer someday they will get what they're supposed to be paying for..  DIGITAL CABLE.

RLJSlick

Oh ok!  :)

Quote from: Mark StrubeNo no... I was replying to GBK... I guess he was so embarrassed by his pointless post he erased it.
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