new installation questions

[mike jacobi]

I am starting to install my new system and in scanning previous posts am a little confused. I have Direct tv, two Tivo units, two home theater setups. I purchased a Sony xbr 40 from Flanners and my Bow tie from radio shack. I have as of wednesday my HDTV dish installed with three transponders. It was installed by Jerry as per everyone's recommdation and he did a fine job. I have on order the new Samsung T-165 for converter.
Vanns.com by the way will have the best price on this unit as well as the t-150.My ? are: Do I need to eliminate the local channels from Direct tv for both Tv's or just my set for hdtv? I am a little confused by the installation bow tie enhancements with cutting wires and changing OHMS. What do you need to buy and where can you buy it? Is the bowtie going to be strong enough from wind lake? Thank you for all your help .I have learned so much from this site.

[tenth_t2]

Mike,

Sorry for the delay in reply's, I'll share what I've learned, I'm sure a few others will chime in here (right everyone??)

Although I have a Mits with an integrated tuner, digital OTA reception will go into a separate input.  I'm assuming that the set has either component (Y-Pb-Pr) inputs, or at a minimum several S-Video.  The T-150 has digital component out, so use that if you can. It looks like the Direct TV receivers are separate, correct?  I'm a big fan of being able to watch anything anywhere, so I would buy local channels on Direct TV unless you have a good rooftop unit already (or want to install one).  The reality is that you may want to watch a football game on the bigscreen, or some other show that's not offered in HD.  Now, with NBC and CBS here, they pretty much simulcast as I'm sure you've seen on other threads.

The bow tie is a UHF antenna, and has connection points for twinlead (300ohm) wire.  Radio Shack will have a weathertight 75ohm adapter, probably about $5.  For reference, I'm using a Channel Master 8 bowtie on a 10' mast on my roof, and I'm out on the southeast side of the city of waukesha.  I'd try the bowtie inside at first, maybe the attic as well.  However given the relatively log signal strenghts, you may/may not get lucky.

If I missed your question, or want to talk specifics offline, drop me an email at omangp@tds.net.  I'd be happy to chat more (talk faster than I type).

Greg O.

[mike jacobi]

Thank you for the reply. I appreciate your insights and clarifications.The T-165 is the to be intrioduced direct  tv Hdtv converter. Based on my understanding it will hook up to the coax running from the hdtv dish for direct Tv hdtv and have provisions for an outside /inside attenna. it also is to have a boost built in the unit to eliminate the nedd for an outside attenna somehow using the Hughes direct tv dish. SO we hope the bow tie will work.
The Sony xbr is HDTV ready but is the standard configuration size tube tv . So I receive DVD in letterbox . Will that continue with HDTV broadcasts from local and Direct TV?
What is really confusing to me is local channels My wife has a seperate TIVO unit and feed from a common dish. We both have to have  the same programming. But I want to disable my local channels for hdtv but she wants to keep hers. Is that possible or is this a call direc t tv and get 31 different answers. I again say thank you for everyone sharing the knowledge . I need it as I readly admit I am dumb as a rock on setup issues but fellin love with HDTV at State Fair and was a Must Have.

[Gregg Lengling]

From what I understand with my setup from Directv is that you buy a package and that package is available on all your boxes (although of course the HDTV channels will only show up on the HDTV compatible box).  Then you pay the $4.99 for each additional box.  So from this it seems you will have the locals on all boxes whether you want them or not...but seeing as you have to pay for them on your wifes box...why not take them for free on the other boxes.  However note this is only the analogue channels they are providing,not the ATSC (digital) channels such as 4,6,10 and 58 at present.


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Gregg R. Lengling
RCA P61310 61" 16x9
glengling@ameritech.net

[mike jacobi]

Can you seperate the local HDTV signals from the analog signals by sending them  through the Hdtv converter box? My problem is I have never seen a direct tv hookup with local stations set up to be received in HDTV.  

[Gregg Lengling]

 

Originally posted by mike jacobi:
Can you seperate the local HDTV signals from the analog signals by sending them  through the Hdtv converter box? My problem is I have never seen a direct tv hookup with local stations set up to be received in HDTV.  

I'm not sure I understand you...you cannot get HDTV (local) off the satellite, this must come from your antenna.  So if you have the Box with HDTV with a Dish and local antenna hooked up to it.  You can receive anything from the dish and it'll send it to your receiver (highdef Satellite or standard def satellite or standard def local received from satellite) in addition it will receive whatever High Def or analogue from the local antenna input that you can receive locally on your antenna.\
I hope I wasn't too convoluted...but it doesn't matter if the material is HighDef or not, or whether it comes in the Dish or your local antenna, the box will ship whatever you have selected to your monitor.


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Gregg R. Lengling
RCA P61310 61" 16x9
glengling@ameritech.net

[mike jacobi]

Greg Thank You. So even if the dish is sending analog to the HDTV converter for the local channels  I can delete that signal as I am sending a hdtv signal from the attenna. In other words I could switch imputs as the local channels may not come in as clear off the attenna.

[tenth_t2]

To answer the question, yes.  The antenna input on a receiver is effectively a second source, so you will use the sat receiver to switch between a satellite feed or the antenna feed.  My setup is slightly different as my ATSC tuner is in my set, but the same concept applies.  The STB that you're interested in has the ATSC tuner and the guts to decode whatever HD signal comes through the satellite.

Kinda the best of both worlds in hindsight.  I'm now trying to justify adding HDNet, but I want the Mitsubishi DirectTV tuner, but I don't want the $800 price. (Insert various cuss & swear words here...)

Greg O.