Lazy Question on HD-DVD vs. BluRay

[80sAirwaves]

I just read this morning on VideoBusiness.com that the HD-DVD camp announced their first titles at CES yesterday http://www.videobusiness.com/article.asp?articleID=9544&catType=NEWS
"Among the titles to make their HD DVD bow this year are the upcoming Warner theatrical releases Batman Begins, starring Christian Bale; Constantine, starring Keanu Reeves; and the Tim Burton-directed Charley and the Chocolate Factory, starring Johnny Depp.

The three new releases will lead a slate of 50 titles from the studios, which also includes The Polar Express and The Phantom of the Opera along with HBO's The Sopranos and New Line's Rush Hour and Final Destination.

Paramount will contribute the upcoming Cameron Crowe film Elizabethtown and the recent Manchurian Candidate as part of a 20 title slate.

Universal will offer Van Helsing, The Bourne Supremacy and The Chronicles of Riddick.

The announcements gave the HD DVD camp a public relations victory in its battle against the competing Blu-ray Disc standard championed by Sony, Panasonic and others."

The simple question I have is, does either new HD format provide both a player AND recorder?  I am interested in viewing HD discs, but I am MORE interested in capturing HD OTA for time shifting and archiving.

-pjc

[techboy]

I routinely record HD program material to standard 4.7 gig DVD's.  It is not necessary to use any new technology to do this.  Although the blu-ray and Hd systems may in fact become a standard at some point in the future, they are NOT necessary to record HD.  Using WM9HD as a recording format, it is possible to record 2 hours of HDTV on a single layer 4.7 gig disc.  The PQ is as good as the original.  So, the boys in Hollywood ( content ) and the guys in Korea (hardware ) would seem have come up with yet another scheme to get us all to invest in new costly equipment and to replace our film libraries.  Any 2 hour movie can already fit on a standard 2 layer DVD in 1080p HD using current codecs.  
   In the mean time, I've recorded programs like the summer Olympics in HD that may never be available through other sources.  All it takes is a cheap HTPC and a source for the digital streams.  That is, a STB with firewire or a PC tuner card.  The software is FREE from MS.  I edit out the commercials and can usually fit 4 episodes of a 1 hour show onto one DVD.  I don't need the blu-ray!