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New TWC Channel 1111

Started by Tom Snyder, Thursday Oct 23, 2003, 09:36:35 PM

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mhz40

QuoteOriginally posted by gparris
Ham and yams is ALL you'll get-because the real  "turkey" is TWC----for "murky" information...

Yeah, I know technically, "fall" isn't over yet.!:mad:
(and I know you can't say anything without endangering your job position):eek:

This was just a reminder from a "sub" who is watching and waiting for information given to come true and on some sort of "schedule"!:D
Ouch

gb4fan92

The past 3 new channels (maybe more) that have found its way to TWC High Definition Channels have all been announced in Tim Cuprisin's column prior to appearing on TWC. He seems to be a better source of reliable information than anyone else in this forum. So until I read it in Tim's column I take all this news of new channels coming with a grain of salt. (So Tim, anything new coming?):p

mhz40

QuoteOriginally posted by gb4fan92
The past 3 new channels (maybe more) that have found its way to TWC High Definition Channels have all been announced in Tim Cuprisin's column prior to appearing on TWC. He seems to be a better source of reliable information than anyone else in this forum. So until I read it in Tim's column I take all this news of new channels coming with a grain of salt. (So Tim, anything new coming?):p
Tim apparently read the Faux 6 launch item I posted here and kind of 'blew the whistle' while in the process of verifying the post. He got the scoop; I got something a little different. Sorry if you all feel slighted, but it simply isn't worth the headache to give the group a heads-up anymore. Otherwise my HD addiction (and eating habits) could be in jeopardy of becoming ahhh... 'un-funded'.

I will continue to beat the press when I know something is officially for release. In some cases it will beat the paper...but not always someone's "closest CSR", who frequently releases information (often in error) and can remain anonymous thru someone else's posts. That's the best I can do.

Meanwhile I will continue to squash rumors, provide technical advice and try to help troubleshoot any problems you may have from time-to-time.  Along the way I get to learn a few things myself.

Now, if any of you are in the business of analyzing the stock market and eager to share insider-trading news... I'd like to request the addition of a stock forum.:D

gparris

Today I took time out from a busy day at work to get an extremely helpful CSR that reviewed the "fall" introduction of iN HD 1 & 2 on the TWC website help section. Once she got on the right page with me and got to the //www.inhd.com website, reviewed the Houston and Austin, TX TWC websites (since they already have these channels), she then knew what I was asking about. Then she sent an email to the marketing dept and the manager in charge of HD channel additions (mhz40?) ;)

After some considerable time and effort she told me that a call or email to me will be coming in answer as to if it is either in testing now-and then being added to our HD lineup-and when.  The reason was because no inside information was posted in the internal TWC info site for her to find out immediately.:eek:

I do hope there is just a glitch in the internal TWC database as those channels are supposed to come soon...:mad:

Hope you like that ham and yams instead of turkey, mhz40!:guitar:

gb4fan92

This was posted on TWC's website today:

As a continuation of our commitment to deliver consumers the most robust set of High Definition channels possible, Time Warner Cable plans to offer high-definition programming: In Demand, and Fox Sports Net.

Coming in 2004, Fox Sports Net will begin to produce live HD game telecasts of many Major League Baseball, National Basketball Association and National Hockey League teams within local communities.

Also coming soon, INHD will be available to HD customers. INHD will offer several hundred hours of feature films, professional sports and college sports--including a college football game of the week, general interest programming like "Family-Fare" plus award winning mini-series. Prices and launch dates have not been determined.

gparris

Per the thread TWC Field Day :

Yes, I indicated that TWC posted this on 11/15 that the "coming soon" for IN HD was reposted....from "in the fall"....!
:D

AS for CLARITY, just when ARE the "IN HD" channels coming?:(
 
Like I asked before, "Turkey Day" is a week away...and still no "IN HD" channels from TWC!

"Coming soon" doesn't cut it....sorry.

Does "Coming soon" also mean 2004 and TWC wants to remain competitive by murky answers?

Directv is offering some nice multiroom systems for the Holidays, TWC!
:mad:

mhz40

Originally posted by gparris
AS for CLARITY, just when ARE the "IN HD" channels coming?:(  
MHz40: Sooner than some would think, yet longer than others had hoped. :D

Originally posted by gparris
Like I asked before, "Turkey Day" is a week away...and still no "IN HD" channels from TWC! Does "Coming soon" also mean 2004 and TWC wants to remain competitive by murky answers?
MHz40: No.  To date, TW Milw. has no track record of launching services outside of published windows.

Originally posted by gparris
Directv is offering some nice multiroom systems for the Holidays, TWC!:mad:
MHz40: Sweet deal.  Dish is competitive with cable on price too.  Make sure you get the extended warranty.  Lightning strikes are murder on the gear connected to that roof-mounted lightning rod  uhh... dish.  (After a half-dozen or so inspections at friends houses, I have yet to see a dish install properly grounded.  Most of what I saw ran directly from the dish on the roof to the back of the receiver.)
:bang:

 And I still have not received one PM inviting me over for ham & yams!
Can't wait any longer... time for plan B.
:drink:

gparris

Thanks for the return-volley in quotes, mhz40!:)  
Nice to know that folks read my postings...however, the reason I mention the multiroom systems for the holidays from DTV is that some specials like this spare the newbie from a bigger outlay for equipment after they buy their HDTV and HD-DTV box & 3 LNB dish combo-plus maybe a Tivo. Folks look at the total HD offerings and compare the TWC offering to DTV. Aside from the locals in HD they might very well get OTA (at least in the city), what DOES TWC offer the city folks after getting a 3-room DTV system for free? If IN HD 1 & 2 get offered soon enough to counterbalance the lack of no HDNET or HDNET-movies channels, despite the lack of any HD sports channel, the consumer might be swayed for more content offerings before the buy that HD-DTV box!

----AND most installlers I know DO ground their systems as I am a part-time home theater consultant and know my trades.:cool:

As my home is readied for move-in for the upcoming month - I gather my HD boxes and DVR boxes and ask myself if I should activivate the "DTV movers clause"- or just get TWC to fully install my current TWC system in the new house.
I have done a great deal of prewire and PVC runs for Sat and additional cabling, just in case.
I do not understand how TWC can be so sluggish with its HD offerings during such a busy holiday period when consumers are more apt to buy that new HDTV set for the family and soon-the Superbowl.
Someone needs to rehire the folks in the TWC marketing department as the HD factor is overlooked (as well as the DVR).  Friends of mine don't still know what the DVR is all about and they ARE cable customers!
:eek:

Finally, TWC sources I am not allowed to mention,tell me in confidence,protecting their names, that the following is going on:

#1 That "IN HD 1 & 2" channels are being tested and the unmentioned receives them and these are like HDNET & HDNET movies...and rollout is very soon...but does not know launch dates for the subscriber-but DOES get them on this TWC-employee tester's cable box.

#2 The HD PVR is also being tested by this employee (and other employees)  for functionality and any concerns -like the SA8000HD-and another model-not given-probably the Motorola DCT6208, also  with its HD and PVR built-in, as trials in Texas (they use Motorola) continue there, as well as here.


So thanks for the quotes-please go to alternate plan B for dinner, dude!
Hopefully, no one will go the alternate plan B route away - from TWC for HD - like me, perhaps. It just depends on the marketing savvy of TWC!
:o

The Law

Is it really all marketing.  How much of this, I wonder, is due to contracts, regulations cost of equipment, technical hurdles, etc.

It's like an emotional pendulum - bash/praise/piss/enjoy/moan/understand....

I did notice on InDemand, there is finally a widescreen version of a movie!!!  2Fast2Furious.  Yes, I know, not HD, however, I've been renting DVDs and not buying InDemand flicks solely due to them not being widescreen.  This little nugget came unanounced and unadvertised....I like it.  I hope more flicks are presented in WS...I'll rent them and save a trip to the video store - the non WS versions....Hollywood video still beckons.

As far as 1111 goes (since this thread really began there :) ), I'm still underwhelmed given the hoo hah surrounding it.  

As always...looking forward to whatching soccer in HD.  Those with sat system are saying MLS looks fantastic.  I'll take anything given the crappy pictures on FSW.  Hopefully TW will have this package (is it HDNET?) by the time young Freddy Adu starts playing - kill 2 birds, there.  1)  Get the gen public interested in the league, 2)  Get the gen public interested in HD

ps...just groaned today when I realised Pack thanksgiving game is on fox - oh well.

mhz40

Originally posted by gparris
Friends of mine don't still know what the DVR is all about and they ARE cable customers! :eek:
Then your friends don't read the stuff they get with their monthly bill, or watch one of the 30 or so channels on the system promoting it.

Originally posted by gparris
Finally, TWC sources I am not allowed to mention,tell me in confidence,protecting their names, that the following is going on:

#1 That "IN HD 1 & 2" channels are being tested and the unmentioned receives them and these are like HDNET & HDNET movies...and rollout is very soon...but does not know launch dates for the subscriber-but DOES get them on this TWC-employee tester's cable box.

Hmmm...

Originally posted by gparris
#2 The HD PVR is also being tested by this employee (and other employees)  for functionality and any concerns -like the SA8000HD-and another model-not given-probably the Motorola DCT6208, also  with its HD and PVR built-in, as trials in Texas (they use Motorola) continue there, as well as here.
Your 'sources' are celebrating the holiday a little early on that one...
:drink:

mhz40

#40
QuoteOriginally posted by The Law
[clip]I did notice on InDemand, there is finally a widescreen version of a movie!!!  2Fast2Furious.  Yes, I know, not HD, however, I've been renting DVDs and not buying InDemand flicks solely due to them not being widescreen.[/clip]
I found another clip... check out the KISS video on the free Music on Demand... the one with an orchestra backing them up in concert.

gparris

Thanks again for the quotes, mhz40...nice to know you care.:D

As for the DVR's-yes, according my Kenosha office, especially when I pay in person, the DVRs are flying off the shelves and into subscribers homes!:)  Some of my friends and family are dimwits!

As far as watching and testing the IN HD channels by employees, this employee was telling me what was on as I checked in the //www.inhd.com website and called a friend in Texas if it was truly on then...yes!;)  
mhz40: you have to keep your job at TWC...I understand that. But I do not work for your company, but my last insider information came BEFORE anyone had the details on Discovery HD Theater delivery to the TWC Milwaukee system...days before,and I was right about it.
IF you cannot tell us anything of value about rollouts to protect your job that is understandable. But I will.:cool:

I just don't get TWC not adding additional HD channels during the peak HDTV-buying season coming up (or upon us). that's all.:rolleyes:

The HD PVRs were described in detail right down to their component-video outputs....they WEREN'T drinking!
I understand that drinking could be a cause for dismissal at work according to TWC employee guidelines (or probably any company's).

My many thanks to the unmentioned TWC employee to have enough guts to explain to me what was going on!:bow:

gparris

It would be helpful if customers that TWC chose to attract got more information thru direct campaigns directed at seeking new customers based on some of the new technology, particularly the HD channels, Voice Over IP and other things. :)

Instead, TWC spends their dollars advertising by attacking the Satellite in a way of luring customers.    

There are a few folks out there in TWC land that knows that an educated customer, current or future, is one that is going to stay around.    These are the people that make a difference in TWC and these are the people that should be praised.

Of course, TWC has a way of seeing who is posting what, since I'm sure you have TWC's Road Runner, and your job would be put on the line, if they knew you were sharing marketing information.

However, we as customers "plan", as you at the company do, and frankly, if you don't tell us what you are doing, or going to do, we very well may spend our own dollars on something else ("Satellite") rather than your services.

Once the 'play money is gone', it's gone and you have to wait till the next 'budget cycle' to get more.

Your Marketing Department has a 'build-it', they'll buy it attitude....Yes, that may be for some, but there are others out there, that strategize and plan their investment, and those are the people that TWC needs to market to as well.

mhz40

Originally posted by gparris
...my last insider information came BEFORE anyone had the details on Discovery HD Theater delivery to the TWC Milwaukee system...days before,and I was right about it.  IF you cannot tell us anything of value about rollouts to protect your job that is understandable. But I will.:cool:
You sound like your own deepthroat....  'rollouts'?   Hmmm... sounds like marketing lingo to me.  That's fine --- you make the announcements.  You da' man.

The HD PVRs were described in detail right down to their component-video outputs....they WEREN'T drinking!
I can describe a space shuttle in detail.... that dosn't mean I've ever touched one.  Beleive me... there is no testing going on, so enough with the HD-DVR for now... go figure out the Kennedy assasination or something.

My many thanks to the unmentioned TWC employee to have enough guts to explain to me what was going on!:bow:
Deepthroat...:bow:

mhz40

#44
Originally posted by gparris
Instead, TWC spends their dollars advertising by attacking the Satellite in a way of luring customers.
...and keep existing ones by pointing out extra costs, year-long contracts and reception issues for which the consumer may not be aware of.  This also delineates the differences between cable & direct-to-home delivery for the consumer.

There are a few folks out there in TWC land that knows that an educated customer, current or future, is one that is going to stay around.    These are the people that make a difference in TWC and these are the people that should be praised.
Most really don't care... as long as they turn their TV on and they have a picture.  The upgrade effort has provided that stability (although most cable outages of the past involved power outages, not hardware.)  The consumer goes where product is the cheapest and the quality is better, or at least as good as the alternative.  Even a penny difference in gas will get people to do u-turns to get to the gas station.

Of course, TWC has a way of seeing who is posting what, since I'm sure you have TWC's Road Runner, and your job would be put on the line, if they knew you were sharing marketing information.
They don't have to see what I'm posting.  Tim Curprisin does it for them when he calls to confirm what he sees here.

However, we as customers "plan", as you at the company do, and frankly, if you don't tell us what you are doing, or going to do, we very well may spend our own dollars on something else ("Satellite") rather than your services.
Yup.  Another kicker is once someone signs up for dish for a year, their options are taken away from them to make any changes.


Your Marketing Department has a 'build-it', they'll buy it attitude....Yes, that may be for some, but there are others out there, that strategize and plan their investment, and those are the people that TWC needs to market to as well.
The best investment is to keep your money in the bank.  If you want to save money and upgrade to hardware easily, don't buy a receiver when you can rent one for $6/month.