Marquette Game

[Gregg Lengling]

I'm sorry but I couldn't watch the game on my 61" set on 1-1......horrible....turned on 58 analog and it's  5 times better.

[Tom Snyder]

Agreed... Except the DirecTV Satellite local station feed was better than either 1-1 or 58 OTA analog.

[Joseph S]

Just wait until the pixelation of next week. Will this be the final week of multicasting during HD sporting events? Who thinks it will work this time when it failed during last year's NCAA tourney, College Football games, NFL playoffs, and the Masters... You would almost guess I'm hoping for a disaster so the dreaded multicasts will finally end forever. Fiber optics work, use them.

I sure had my pick of radio stations for the broadcast, perhaps 5 stations were running it without skips. Sure would be nice to be able to complain about the edge enhancement, but getting a stable picture and audio comes first. My guess is that they'll do their best to cheat by giving the other stations 1MB total and claim there's no problem with multicasting.

[johnmark]

Jim Hall,

Please, Please ask TWC to let you turn off the sub channels for two hours next Saturday.  Give us poor HDTV nuts the game broadcast as good as possible.

Thanks

John

[Kevin Arnold]

The decision to deliver channels 41 and 63 to Time Warner via the digital channel is turning out to be a disaster for WDJT.  TWC certainly can  be easily equipped to receive those channels via analog over the air method - even an old VCR with a Radio Shack bow tie would do the trick -  and free up the digital channel for what it was intended for:  HD signals and/or multicast of programs not availible on the analog side.  This is insane.  I personally will be turning the antenna toward Madison and watching on channel 3/50 for the better picture.  Sorry 58, you've just tried to do too much.  I'll vote with my rotor.

[John L]

I suggest 58 to purchase channels 41 and 63 each their own LPDTV transmitter.

[JimHall]

Gregg;

I agree with you on how our DTV HDTV looked on Saturday with the Marquette game.  It was not very good, but is was not because of multicasting.

As you know, the game was not offered in HDTV from the network.  The feed came in via satellite from CBS network control and was our standard NTSC format.  As we have in the past we thought that an upconverted NTSC game would upcovert fine at our normal data bandwidth rate, but as we all observed that was not the case.

We even increased the bandwidth at halftime, but to no avail in improvement.  

As we examined the picture from the game site, two issues were apparent; 1.) there was just plain more noise in the picture coming in via satellite; and 2.) the cameras (especially high game) seemed over enhanced.

With a poor signal to noise ratio, data bandwidth is used up very quickly converting the noise to data (its non-discriminatory) and  over camera enhancement seems to use up data bandwidth very quickly with the high frequency.  This was apparent in the high number of black edges in the floor.  Thus, bad NTSC seems to be amplified to lesser than perfect state.

With Sunday's games in HDTV from the game site, we saw none of these problems and it seems that many were very satisfied with the telecast in HDTV.

I hope that this clears up some of the issues from Saturday. I  assure you that we will continue to work to better understand all these new issues and use our DTV broadcast medium to the fullest.

Jim Hall

[Joseph S]

With Sunday's games in HDTV from the game site, we saw none of these problems and it seems that many were very satisfied with the telecast in HDTV.

None?? All you have to do is watch the ball, watch the legs, watch the movement. The pixelation is still there even though they used long shots throughout and it doesn't have to be there.

Clearly, you cannot multicast and show HD sports simulataneously. You cheated and it helped, but as a result we got a lower quality feed of the game and two atrocious showings on 1.2 and 1.3. It simply doesn't work, why continue to do it especially at the expense of not showing the vast majority of the Tournament's HD games?

Sample 1
Sample 2

[johnmark]

The game on Sunday was acceptable, nothing more.  It still was flat with lack of detail and demension.  I still go back to an earlier comment.  How many times is Jim going to tell us that eveything is OK, when clearly it is not.  Either Jim and company do not watch other HD shows, or they do not care.

Jim you never seem to acknowledge that there is an "issue"!

CBS 58 still is in a class by itself for the worst HD picture in the city.

"C"  for communication.

"C" for picture quality.

How about it Jim.  Full bandwidth for Marquette.

[AndrewP]

Here, the PQ of the game was as close to HDTV as it can probably be. The best not HDTV broadcast on CBS 1-1.

Andrew,
Muskego,
RS attic yagi

[Matt Heebner]

Anyone see the NBA-TV HD basketball game on ch. 198 on DirecTV last night. Suberb PQ, and dolby digital 5.1 sound. Even better was the Roundball  Classic at the same time from HDNet on ch. 199, also in 5.1. Both games looked superior to CBS's broadcast of the NCAA game on Sunday.
Both DirecTv's games had the stunning resolution, and life like color, but they had something that was severly missing from CBS's broadcast....picture depth.
The only explaination for this lack of depth, which should be readily apparent in high def, is the bandwidth just isn't there on CBS. I've seen fly-overs in Arizona, NBA HD games, and Bikini Destinations on HDNet that literally looked as though I could step through the screen and be there.  I wish CBS would rethink the multi-cast, at least during HD sports.


Matt