Poll
Question:
How do you receive your High Definition TV
Option 1: Cable
votes: 2
Option 2: Satellite
votes: 2
Option 3: Over the Air
votes: 5
Option 4: U-Verse
votes: 0
Option 5: Streaming (Roku, Sling, etc)
votes: 4
Option 6: Another option, I'll comment below..
votes: 0
We've been taking a survey since the site started, but the landscape is changing, and we'd like to get a better read on what's happening now...
So how do you get your HDTV.. You may make MULTIPLE Selections. :)
You are forgetting the U-verse subscribers. :)
Totals are going above 100%, so maybe there should be a OTA with Satellite as a separate line to check off, since it is necessary for most HD satellite subscribers to get at least all four national HD networks and five, if your count The CW network to use OTA.:wave:
Ack.. I can't believe I forgot U-Verse! It's now an option.
We know that the total will go over 100% because we're allowing the multiple choices.. but the main goal here is really to see the relative numbers of Cable vs Satellite. I've heard from a reliable source that Satellite only comprises 10% of the total TV using market here. But I was curious to see the ratio among our little universe of techno-geeks. :) Thus our little unscientific poll.
Unscientific, but relative non the less!
Great idea had always wondered that myself, and also how many over-the-air users along with the cable or sat to see how close the goverment might be with their 20 million over-the-air figures.
What this is showing me already is despite having cable or sat people are using over-the-air for some reason or another.
This is an HD forum, and the best way to get HD is OTA! It is likely this forum will skew the numbers in favor of more OTA than not. If it weren't for HD, I would not watch any OTA signals. It would all be Satellite.
Quote from: jkane;41263This is an HD forum, and the best way to get HD is OTA! It is likely this forum will skew the numbers in favor of more OTA than not. If it weren't for HD, I would not watch any OTA signals. It would all be Satellite.
What you say is true and is happening throughout the country, so one could say
the numbers would be skewed throughout the country then, and not just here in milwaukee.;)
Only 75 forum members?
There is an even split between cable and Sat subscribers. I wonder Sat numbers will change with a new poll three months from now if TW doesn't keep up with the new HD offerings?
I think that the poll is not in all member's minds yet and some are still reporting in.
-By anyone like us responding to this thread each day, more and more of them will see it and respond to it if they do what I do:
Hit the "New Posts" and see what comes up.:D
OTA is in part what satellite users do more often than not to get HD channel locals, so if the polls was separated as to what forum members do as "Over The Air Only" vs. "Satellite with OTA"), the "OTA only" figure would be different.
Milwaukee subs with Dishnetwork are not offered the option for HD locals at all and DirectvHD subs get only 3 of the 4-5 most other locations around the country get for HD locals, currently.
As for cable and sat being even in numbers, I think that if TWC doesn't start adding many more HD channels here in the next few months, the satellite count will be going way up and even U-Verse will show gains.;)
I messed up as I clicked on satellite because we have Directv. But, I get my HD though over-the-air.
Can you take one off satellite and add one to OTA?
Was DTV and off-air until I moved to Whitewater at the begining of the year. i've been on Charter since the move and just installed a squareshoorter over the weekend with excellent results. we'll be moving back to Dish or DTV real soon.
OTA for me. The picture is just so much better.
J
Cable, unfortunately, because I'm in an apartment without a southern exposure, and they provide analog cable for free. If and when I move to a new apartment, I will for certain go to satellite.
OTA is still the best HD since it isn't groomed by anyone. TWC and the Sat providers groom the signal to use less bandwidth. I would like to see the numbers between direct and dishnetwork.
Dave
Quote from: wxndave;41735OTA is still the best HD since it isn't groomed by anyone. TWC and the Sat providers groom the signal to use less bandwidth. I would like to see the numbers between direct and dishnetwork.
Dave
Would also like to see that especially with directs big rollout now. Let the churning begin!
Well, I chose D* and OTA because that's how I get everything.
I generally watch the locals OTA so the situation with 10, 18, 24, 36-1 and 58 not on D* is really no concern at least for me.
While I get some HD via OTA, i.e., NBC and FOX, the other networks, ABC, CBS and The CW, I get via satellite, but not D* or Dish (non of the pizza-pan suppliers). That is why I couldn't tick the satellite box and I'm sure it was meant for pizza-pan subscribers.
I do not get any "cable-channel" type HD services (Discovery, HBO, etc).
There was a comment that OTA has the best picture. There are many who would argue that, me being one of them. The bitrate starved ATSC just cannot handle rapid video frame changes. The MPEG-2 encoders just do not have enough to create a clean signal. Jut ask anyone who watches sports on their HD displays. I hear nothing but complaints.
Clean MPEG-2 HD requires a bitrate the is at least twice the maximum that can be put out over ATSC channels. When you see HD with a bitrate of 35-40 Mbps, you hate going back to ATSC bitrates. Even better video is 1080p, as provided by the hi-def DVD format war. Unfortunately I've not seen hi-def DVD video, but everything I read is all positive. OTA/Cable/Pizza-Pan is not going to be able to provide the video quality of hi-def DVD 1080p.
Would this be a fair summary? Engineers please chime in!
BEST 50+Mbps
Blu-Ray Highest bit rate available
GREAT 19Mbps
OTA dedicated full bandwidth (no subchannel)
VERY HIGH QUALITY Peaks 10+Mbps
Cable HD
MPEG-4 DirecTV
OTA HD signal sharing bandwidth with SD subchannel
ATT U-Verse
WORSE
MPEG-2 legacy compression scheme
Overcompressed cable QAM
OTA HD choked w/ too much subchannel draw
I don't have a real HDTV, I just use an old converter box thats about 4 years old Samsung and I receive all the DTV via OTA. I can tell it must be HD when the black side bars are filled in, but because its viewed on a analog TV, course it doesn't matter if it was connected to a DTV receiver you don't get high definition. Just a wide screen. Otherwise just the side bars are black for SD. I voted in the poll receiving it via OTA.
I got to get a bigger living room and $$$ before I get a HDTV.
-John L.
It might be time for a new survey. It would be interesting to see how the numbers have changed over the past two years...
I think you're right! :)
So,
While in the process of migrating to the new forum software, and fixing broken links on the home page, I stumbled upon this old thread. I'm curious to see how much has changed, so I zeroed out the vote counts, added the first letter back to each vote option (which was missing for some odd reason ???) and I'm re-opening this thread.
One thing that's changed .. need a Streaming option.
I use Playstation-Vue, myself.
Quote from: duncantuna on Friday Jan 20, 2017, 09:55:30 AM
One thing that's changed .. need a Streaming option.
I use Playstation-Vue, myself.
I didn't even think of that! I'll add it as an option
can't select all that apply. just toggles for single choice.
Quote from: MDR on Friday Jan 20, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
can't select all that apply. just toggles for single choice.
Hmmm...doesn't look like thats an option...
Cord cutters are usually OTA and streaming.
Quote from: Bebop on Saturday Jan 21, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
Cord cutters are usually OTA and streaming.
You can now select multiple